You, Me, Empathy, #MindfulSocial with Non Wels

This was a very special episode with Non Wels, creator of the You, Me, Empathy podcast. We met on Twitter and struck up some conversations and Non hosted me on his podcast in October to talk about self-care for caregivers and a whole lot of other things. Non has a way with interviews that really draws out some unexpected insights. Listen to his podcast with an array of interesting people from all walks of life.

Non tells us about how he manages that crucial word in the English language.


It’s OK to take care of ourselves by not avoiding the word no because we are afraid.

Being curious about our feelings and interactions and understanding what we really want in our lives

How what is happening right now is affecting us as well as affecting others

We talked about the Eneagram test and how it identifies different types, and as we dig deeper into those types we can see a bit more about ourselves and perhaps gain some clarity about ourselves. Both Non and I are helper types, not surprising, but I thought his insights into what being a helper type can get us into. It all comes down to curiosity about ourselves and the world and looking internally to discover more about ourselves.

Here are the 9 types according to this test. Which are you?

    The Rational, Idealistic Type: Principled, Purposeful, Self-Controlled, and Perfectionistic
    The Caring, Interpersonal Type: Demonstrative, Generous, People-Pleasing, and Possessive
    The Success-Oriented, Pragmatic Type: Adaptive, Excelling, Driven, and Image-Conscious
    The Sensitive, Withdrawn Type: Expressive, Dramatic, Self-Absorbed, and Temperamental
    The Intense, Cerebral Type: Perceptive, Innovative, Secretive, and Isolated
    The Committed, Security-Oriented Type: Engaging, Responsible, Anxious, and Suspicious
    The Busy, Fun-Loving Type: Spontaneous, Versatile, Distractible, and Scattered
    The Powerful, Dominating Type: Self-Confident, Decisive, Willful, and Confrontational
    The Easygoing, Self-Effacing Type: Receptive, Reassuring, Agreeable, and Complacent

We also talked about how systems like education and corporate wok are changing toward a more humanistic approach, bringing emotional intelligence to the forefront. People want to be satisfied in their lives AND their workplace and leadership is beginning to step up to the plate and provide what the team really needs, and the team members are learning to raise their expectations and ASK for what they want.

About Non
Non Wels is the creator of You, Me, Empathy, a storyteller, and an advocate for therapy and mental health awareness.

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